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Zi Gong
Zi Gong's edge is the question, not the polished answer.
This page judges and selects. It is not a new critical edition. Source text, guide, and translation remain layered on each passage page.
How the person appears in the book
He asks for one word and is given shu
“Is there one word that can be practiced for life?” is Zi Gong's question. Without it, the book does not arrive here at “is it not shu?”
Wei Ling Gong 15.23wei-ling-gong-023He first tries a fuller sentence
Zi Gong first states reciprocity as a full two-sided sentence. Confucius says it is not yet within his reach. He is not a man who has finished shu; he is the man who pushes the question to its edge.
Gong Ye Chang 5.11gong-ye-chang-011Speech: Zai Wo and Zi Gong
Book 11 places Zi Gong under speech. That is a grouping of ability, not a charge of ning. Slick speech has another name in the book, and is to be kept far off.
Xian Jin 11.2xian-jin-002A vessel — a hu-lian vessel
Asked what he is like, Zi Gong is told he is a vessel, and a hu-lian vessel of the ancestral temple. Usefulness is granted, and so is the limit: he is not yet the junzi who is not a vessel.
Gong Ye Chang 5.3gong-ye-chang-003He asks about government until trust remains
Zi Gong presses through food, arms, and the people's trust. The famous close is produced by his questioning, not by a diplomat's prepared line.
Yan Yuan 12.7yan-yuan-007
Easy confusions
Speech and diplomacy are not ning
Ning is the slickness the book wants kept far off. Zi Gong is placed under speech, called penetrating, and able to carry a mission without disgrace. He is also warned about judging others and about taking cleverness for knowledge. A sharp question and ingratiating talk are not the same road.
Shu is the answer his question produces, not his badge
The lifelong word falls on Zi Gong's question. His own “I also want to impose nothing on others” is judged not yet within reach. Do not write shu as an item on his résumé.
Featured passages
These passages show how Zi Gong asks and how he is bounded. They are not his first twelve appearances. Other source passages that name 子贡 or 赐也 follow under “view all.”
- Xue Er 1.15xue-er-015
1. Tsze-kung said, "What do you pronounce concerning the poor man who yet does not flatter, and the rich man who is not proud?" The Master replied, "They will do; but they are not equal to him, who, though poor, is yet cheerful, and to him, who, though rich, loves the rules of propriety." 2. Tsze-kung replied, "It is said in the Book of Poetry, 'As you cut and then file, as you carve and then polish.'—The meaning is the same, I apprehend, as that which you have just expressed." 3. The Master said, "With one like Ts'ze, I can begin to talk about the odes. I told him one point, and he knew its proper sequence."
- Gong Ye Chang 5.3gong-ye-chang-003
Tsze-kung asked, "What do you say of me, Ts'ze? The Master said, "You are a utensil." "What utensil?" "A gemmed sacrificial utensil."
- Gong Ye Chang 5.11gong-ye-chang-011
Tsze-kung said, "What I do not wish men to do to me, I also wish not to do to men." The Master said, "Ts'ze, you have not attained to that."
- Yong Ye 6.28yong-ye-028
1. Tsze-kung said, "Suppose the case of a man extensively conferring benefits on the people, and able to assist all, what would you say of him? Might he be called perfectly virtuous?" The Master said, "Why speak only of virtue in connexion with him? Must he not have the qualities of a sage? Even Yao and Shun were still solicitous about this. 2. "Now the man of perfect virtue, wishing to be established himself, seeks also to establish others; wishing to be enlarged himself, he seeks also to enlarge others. 3. "To be able to judge of others by what is nigh in ourselves;—this may be called the art of virtue."
- Xian Jin 11.2xian-jin-002
1. The Master said, "Of those who were with me in Ch'an and Ts'ai, there are none to be found to enter my door." 2. Distinguished for their virtuous principles and practice, there were Yen Yuan, Min Tsze-ch'ien, Zan Po-niu, and Chung-kung; for their ability in speech, Tsai Wo and Tsze-kung; for their administrative talents, Zan Yu and Chi Lu; for their literary acquirements, Tsze-yu and Tsze-hsia.
- Yan Yuan 12.7yan-yuan-007
1. Tsze-kung asked about government. The Master said, "The requisites of government are that there be sufficiency of food, sufficiency of military equipment, and the confidence of the people in their ruler." 2. Tsze-kung said, "If it cannot be helped, and one of these must be dispensed with, which of the three should be foregone first?" "The military equipment," said the Master. 3. Tsze-kung again asked, "If it cannot be helped, and one of the remaining two must be dispensed with, which of them should be foregone?" The Master answered, "Part with the food. From of old, death has been the lot of all men; but if the people have no faith in their rulers, there is no standing for the state."
- Xian Wen 14.18xian-wen-018
1. Tsze-kung said, "Kwan Chung, I apprehend, was wanting in virtue. When the Duke Hwan caused his brother Chiu to be killed, Kwan Chung was not able to die with him. Moreover, he became prime minister to Hwan." 2. The Master said, "Kwan Chung acted as prime minister to the Duke Hwan, made him leader of all the princes, and united and rectified the whole kingdom. Down to the present day, the people enjoy the gifts which he conferred. But for Kwan Chung, we should now be wearing our hair unbound, and the lappets of our coats buttoning on the left side. 3. "Will you require from him the small fidelity of common
- Xian Wen 14.31xian-wen-031
Tsze-kung was in the habit of comparing men together. The Master said, "Tsze must have reached a high pitch of excellence! Now, I have not leisure for this."
- Wei Ling Gong 15.23wei-ling-gong-023
Tsze-kung asked, saying, "Is there one word which may serve as a rule of practice for all one's life?" The Master said, "Is not reciprocity such a word? What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others."
- Yang Huo 17.19yang-huo-019
1. The Master said, "I would prefer not speaking." 2. Tsze-kung said, "If you, Master, do not speak, what shall we, your disciples, have to record?" 3. The Master said, "Does Heaven speak? The four seasons pursue their courses, and all things are continually being produced, but does Heaven say anything?"
- Zi Zhang 19.22zi-zhang-022
1. Kung-sun Ch'ao of Wei asked Tsze-kung, saying, "From whom did Chung-ni get his learning?" 2. Tsze-kung replied, "The doctrines of Wan and Wu have not yet fallen to the ground. They are to be found among men. Men of talents and virtue remember the greater principles of them, and others, not possessing such talents and virtue, remember the smaller. Thus, all possess the doctrines of Wan and Wu. Where could our Master go that he should not have an opportunity of learning them? And yet what necessity was there for his having a regular master?"
- Zi Zhang 19.23zi-zhang-023
1. Shu-sun Wu-shu observed to the great officers in the court, saying, "Tsze-kung is superior to Chung-ni." 2. Tsze-fu Ching-po reported the observation to Tsze-kung, who said, "Let me use the comparison of a house and its encompassing wall. My wall only reaches to the shoulders. One may peep over it, and see whatever is valuable in the apartments. 3. "The wall of my Master is several fathoms high. If one do not find the door and enter by it, he cannot see the ancestral temple with its beauties, nor all the officers in their rich array. 4. "But I may assume that they are few who find the door. Was not the observation of the chief only what might have been expected?"
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- Xue Er 1.10xue-er-010
1. Tsze-ch'in asked Tsze-kung, saying, "When our master comes to any country, he does not fail to learn all about its government. Does he ask his information? or is it given to him?" 2. Tsze-kung said, "Our master is benign, upright, courteous, temperate, and complaisant, and thus he gets his information. The master's mode of asking information!—is it not different from that of other men?"
- Wei Zheng 2.13wei-zheng-013
Tsze-kung asked what constituted the superior man. The Master said, "He acts before he speaks, and afterwards speaks according to his actions."
- Ba Yi 3.17ba-yi-017
1. Tsze-kung wished to do away with the offering of a sheep connected with the inauguration of the first day of each month. 2. The Master said, "Ts'ze, you love the sheep; I love the ceremony."
- Gong Ye Chang 5.8gong-ye-chang-008
1. The Master said to Tsze-kung, "Which do you consider superior, yourself or Hui?" 2. Tsze-kung replied, "How dare I compare myself with Hui? Hui hears one point and knows all about a subject; I hear one point, and know a second." 3. The Master said, "You are not equal to him. I grant you, you are not equal to him."
- Gong Ye Chang 5.12gong-ye-chang-012
Tsze-kung said, "The Master's personal displays of his principles and ordinary descriptions of them may be heard. His discourses about man's nature, and the way of Heaven, cannot be heard."
- Gong Ye Chang 5.14gong-ye-chang-014
Tsze-kung asked, saying, "On what ground did Kung-wan get that title of Wan?" The Master said, "He was of an active nature and yet fond of learning, and he was not ashamed to ask and learn of his inferiors!—On these grounds he has been styled Wan."
- Yong Ye 6.6yong-ye-006
Chi K'ang asked about Chung-yu, whether he was fit to be employed as an officer of government. The Master said, "Yu is a man of decision; what difficulty would he find in being an officer of government?" K'ang asked, "Is Ts'ze fit to be employed as an officer of government?" and was answered, "Ts'ze is a man of intelligence; what difficulty would he find in being an officer of government?" And to the same question about Ch'iu the Master gave the same reply, saying, "Ch'iu is a man of various ability."
- Shu Er 7.14shu-er-014
1. Yen Yu said, "Is our Master for the ruler of Wei?" Tsze-kung said, "Oh! I will ask him." 2. He went in accordingly, and said, "What sort of men were Po-i and Shu-ch'i?" "They were ancient worthies," said the Master. "Did they have any repinings because of their course?" The Master again replied, "They sought to act virtuously, and they did so; what was there for them to repine about?" On this, Tsze-kung went out and said, "Our Master is not for him."
- Zi Han 9.6zi-han-006
1. A high officer asked Tsze-kung, saying, "May we not say that your Master is a sage? How various is his ability!" 2. Tsze-kung said, "Certainly Heaven has endowed him unlimitedly. He is about a sage. And, moreover, his ability is various." 3. The Master heard of the conversation and said, "Does the high officer know me? When I was young, my condition was low, and therefore I acquired my ability in many things, but they were mean matters. Must the superior man have such variety of ability? He does not need variety of ability." 4. Lao said, "The Master said, 'Having no official employment, I acquired many arts.'"
- Zi Han 9.12zi-han-012
Tsze-kung said, "There is a beautiful gem here. Should I lay it up in a case and keep it? or should I seek for a good price and sell it?" The Master said, "Sell it! Sell it! But I would wait for one to offer the price."
- Xian Jin 11.12xian-jin-012
1. The disciple Min was standing by his side, looking bland and precise; Tsze-lu, looking bold and soldierly; Zan Yu and Tsze-kung, with a free and straightforward manner. The Master was pleased. 2. He said, "Yu, there!—he will not die a natural death."
- Xian Jin 11.15xian-jin-015
1. Tsze-kung asked which of the two, Shih or Shang, was the superior. The Master said, "Shih goes beyond the due mean, and Shang does not come up to it." 2. "Then," said Tsze-kung, "the superiority is with Shih, I suppose." 3. The Master said, "To go beyond is as wrong as to fall short."
- Yan Yuan 12.8yan-yuan-008
1. Chi Tsze-ch'ang said, "In a superior man it is only the substantial qualities which are wanted;—why should we seek for ornamental accomplishments?" 2. Tsze-kung said, "Alas! Your words, sir, show you to be a superior man, but four horses cannot overtake the tongue. 3. Ornament is as substance; substance is as ornament. The hide of a tiger or a leopard stripped of its hair, is like the hide of a dog or a goat stripped of its hair."
- Yan Yuan 12.23yan-yuan-023
Tsze-kung asked about friendship. The Master said, "Faithfully admonish your friend, and skillfully lead him on. If you find him impracticable, stop. Do not disgrace yourself."
- Zi Lu 13.20zi-lu-020
1. Tsze-kung asked, saying, "What qualities must a man possess to entitle him to be called an officer? The Master said, "He who in his conduct of himself maintains a sense of shame, and when sent to any quarter will not disgrace his prince's commission, deserves to be called an officer." 2. Tsze-kung pursued, "I venture to ask who may be placed in the next lower rank?" And he was told, "He whom the circle of his relatives pronounce to be filial, whom his fellow-villagers and neighbours pronounce to be fraternal." 3. Again the disciple asked, "I venture to ask about the class still next in order." The Master said, "They are determined to be sincere in what they say, and to carry out what they do. They are obstinate little men. Yet perhaps they may make the next class." 4. Tsze-kung finally inquired, "Of what sort are those of the present day, who engage in government?" The Master said "Pooh! they are so many pecks and hampers, not worth being taken into account."
- Zi Lu 13.24zi-lu-024
Tsze-kung asked, saying, "What do you say of a man who is loved by all the people of his neighborhood?" The Master replied, "We may not for that accord our approval of him." "And what do you say of him who is hated by all the people of his neighborhood?" The Master said, "We may not for that conclude that he is bad. It is better than either of these cases that the good in the neighborhood love him, and the bad hate him."
- Xian Wen 14.30xian-wen-030
1. The Master said, "The way of the superior man is threefold, but I am not equal to it. Virtuous, he is free from anxieties; wise, he is free from perplexities; bold, he is free from fear. 2. Tsze-kung said, "Master, that is what you yourself say."
- Xian Wen 14.37xian-wen-037
1. The Master said, "Alas! there is no one that knows me." 2. Tsze-kung said, "What do you mean by thus saying—that no one knows you?" The Master replied, "I do not murmur against
- Wei Ling Gong 15.2wei-ling-gong-002
1. The Master said, "Ts'ze, you think, I suppose, that I am one who learns many things and keeps them in memory?" 2. Tsze-kung replied, "Yes,—but perhaps it is not so?" 3. "No," was the answer; "I seek a unity all-pervading."
- Wei Ling Gong 15.9wei-ling-gong-009
Tsze-kung asked about the practice of virtue. The Master said, "The mechanic, who wishes to do his work well, must first sharpen his tools. When you are living in any state, take service with the most worthy among its great officers, and make friends of the most virtuous among its scholars."
- Yang Huo 17.24yang-huo-024
1. Tsze-kung said, "Has the superior man his hatreds also?" The Master said, "He has his hatreds. He hates those who proclaim the evil of others. He hates the man who,
- Zi Zhang 19.20zi-zhang-020
Tsze-kung said, "Chau's wickedness was not so great as that name implies. Therefore, the superior man hates to dwell
- Zi Zhang 19.21zi-zhang-021
Tsze-kung said, "The faults of the superior man are like the eclipses of the sun and moon. He has his faults, and all men see them; he changes again, and all men look up to him."
- Zi Zhang 19.24zi-zhang-024
Shu-sun Wu-shu having spoken revilingly of Chung-ni, Tsze-kung said, "It is of no use doing so. Chung-ni cannot be reviled. The talents and virtue of other men are hillocks and mounds which may be stepped over. Chung-ni is the sun or moon, which it is not possible to step over. Although a man may wish to cut himself off from the sage, what harm can he do to the sun or moon? He only shows that he does not know his own capacity.
- Zi Zhang 19.25zi-zhang-025
1. Ch'an Tsze-ch'in, addressing Tsze-kung, said, "You are too modest. How can Chung-ni be said to be superior to you?" 2. Tsze-kung said to him, "For one word a man is often deemed to be wise, and for one word he is often deemed to be foolish. We ought to be careful indeed in what we say. 3. "Our Master cannot be attained to, just in the same way as the heavens cannot be gone up to by the steps of a stair. 4. "Were our Master in the position of the ruler of a State or the chief of a Family, we should find verified the description which has been given of a sage's rule:—he would plant the people, and forthwith they would be established; he would lead them on, and forthwith they would follow him; he would make them happy, and forthwith multitudes would resort to his dominions; he would stimulate them, and forthwith they would be harmonious. While he lived, he would be glorious. When he died, he would be bitterly lamented. How is it possible for him to be attained to?"
What you can do today
Learn his way of asking, not his fluency. Before you impose one thing today, ask the lifelong question: if you would not want it, can you refrain? On this site that sentence is Wei Ling Gong 15.23.
Frequently asked questions
Are Zi Gong and Ci the same person?
Yes. Ci is the personal name, Zi Gong the courtesy name. Confucius often addresses him as Ci.
Does Zi Gong say “what you do not want done to yourself”?
The question is Zi Gong's; the answer is Confucius's. On this site: wei-ling-gong-023, Wei Ling Gong 15.23; some numberings 15.24. Zi Gong's own formulation is Gongye Chang gong-ye-chang-011, and is judged not yet reached.
Does the “speech” grouping mean he is merely eloquent?
No. The same book says fine words are rarely ren, and tells you to keep far from plausible talkers. Zi Gong's questions on government, ren, and the one word drive speech onto the bone of the matter.
Who says Zi Gong is worthier than Zhongni?
Shusun Wushu and Chen Ziqin say this sort of thing. Zi Gong refuses it with the palace wall and the sun and moon. A page that promotes him above the teacher repeats the praise he turned away.
Is Zi Gong the foremost disciple?
He himself says he would not dare look toward Hui. Confucius agrees they are not equal. Trade, speech, and questioning are not a championship.
Why is Zi Gong criticized for ranking people?
Book 14 records Zi Gong ranking others. Confucius asks whether Ci is so worthy, and says he himself has no leisure for that. The gift of questioning can still be spent on judging people. That is the line between speech and ning.